The Lamron

As most should know from previous posts, I am a conservative. This political viewpoint makes me a minority at Geneseo who is treated very disrespectfully on a regular basis. As a conservative, I believe the Birthers are a bunch of imbiciles. I also don't think most of the birthers truly believe what they are saying...It's their version of Bush Derangement Syndrome. You know how libs blame Bush for everything, including the fall of Rome. I know liberals blame Bush for things they know he was in no way responsible for because "it was cool." My point is, the Birthers are not representative of Conservatives, and in my view, are only muddying legitimate policy debate.

Taimur, Obviously your education is not complete. You are suffering from the same ignorance as those who think that a computer generated form is a birth certificate.
If you would take the time to read the Constitution you would find that the qualifications for President include "natural born citizen." Not "born in America." Don't know the difference? (Yes, there is a difference.) Google Mario Apuzzo and go to his blog. Read, and learn something. Then you can come back to these pages and relay the truth to your fellow students.
Secondly, in case you didn't know it, computers weren't used to record birth data in 1961. The "birth certificate" you are referring to is a computer generated summary of birth data based upon data entry by an employee of the State of Hawaii. The original "birth certificate" has information on it that Obama wants to keep hidden. Aren't you at least a little curious to know what facts he wants to conceal?
Now, for fun, let's use a little logic (they still teach logic at your school?) with this 'what if' scenario: What if your father had been a doctor at a hospital in Hawaii, and performed delivery services on the child who later became America's first black President, would you not be bursting with pride and want others to share your joy and pride?
Of course you would, so would any normal kid. So let's look around at who is bursting with joy and pride in Hawaii. Hmmmm....no one has come forward?... Hmmm.....What could this possibly mean? Draw your own conclusions about that.
As your education on this issue advances, and I sincerely hope it does, you will learn that the issue of Obama's place of birth is a red herring. The real issue is that he was a British citizen at birth, due to the fact that his father was a British citizen. This is the issue that makes him ineligible to serve as President. You will learn why at Mr. Apuzzo's blog.
It has nothing to do with his race, another red herring, or his policies. It is a matter of the rule of law that keeps our society intact.
Assignment: We have had 44 Presidents, name all those who were British citizens at birth. Then go back to the Constitution and re-read the entire clause concerning eligibility.
Now you're getting educated.

The Obama/Holder/DOJ loons posting in defense of Obama on every website that speaks against the administration are PAID WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS to blog, search "The Obama Justice Department's Secret Blogging Team... Is it Illegal?" and see for yourself! Also search "TRACY RUSSO, DOJ BLOGGERS" and learn how "BIG" (ACTUALLY MASSIVE!) TRACY RUSSO and the DOJ are ILLEGALLY wasting OUR TAX DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THE TOTALLY EVIL MARXIST, GLOBALIST POLICIES of CONSTITUTIONALLY ILLEGAL OBAMA! OBAMA HAS ALMOST NO "GRASSROOTS SUPPORT", THE FALSE IMPRESSION HE DOES IS BEING FOSTERED and FED BY THE DOJ PAID BLOGGING TEAM! HOW LOW WILL WE ALLOW OBAMA/HOLDER/DOJ TO STOOP BEFORE THE UPSTANDING CITIZENS of THIS NATION ARISE AND FIGHT?! THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IS A TOTAL DISGRACE FROM TOP TO BOTTOM!

To Dale Stevens,
I disagree with the notion that Obama was not legally qualified to be president, however, I'd like to answer a few of your questions related to Geneseo.

You aksed if they still teach logic here? The answer is yes - in the math department only. The rest of the students at Geneseo are very very good at regurgitating the liberal, marxist drivel spoonfed by professors so far out of the main stream they can't even hear the water.

You also imply that Geneseo students are not capable of intelligent research. That is just not true. If you consider the Daily Kos and Keith Olbermann's lunatic froth at the mouth rants to be educated research, Geneseo students are brilliant.

So Dale, we may disagree on this particular issue, but we can agree that this bastion of liberalism is NOT in the main stream of the rest of the country. These elitist offspring of yuppies are no more aware of what our country faces than politicians in Washington. College is a bubble, just like Washington. It's hard for me to have an intelligent conversation about politics or economics with a Geneseo student that does not have amy kind of job and lives on campus in the bubble.

Dale

Please go back to LGF or the Hannity forums or wherever your ilk hang out and masturbate to fantasies of an illegitimate presidency. Your party is dead. Get digging.

Boomhaur,

First, get your facts straight. Logic is in fact taught in Geneseo's Philosophy department, the Introductory-level course of which is taught by the unique and probably brilliant Stacey Edgar.

Secondly, I find your insinuation that the professorship here at Geneseo is full of "liberal, marxist drivel" extremely insulting and ignorant of the wide spectrum of beliefs held by those who work and teach here. It might be easy for you to find examples of leftist professors here, but it would be just as easy for me to namedrop Geneseo educators with conservative leanings. I know of at least one that has in the past described himself as a "fundamental Christian conservative." You're seeing only what you want to see, and that's silly.

Thirdly, I am amongst the liberal student population at Geneseo. I disregard anything written at the Kos as quickly as I throw away anything appearing on Drudge's site. I also find Olbermann nearly as frustrating to watch as Papa Bill. I think Moore and Beck have something in common - they know how to sell themselves to their demographic and audience extremely well.

You show a complete disregard for the beauty of the vast differences to be found amongst the student population at Geneseo that I find offensive. I am no "elitist offspring of yuppies." I was raised by an incredibly strong single mother and a loving lower-middle class family. My family and I both have a clear understanding that academic success will lift me above my prior station in life, and it's hard work, not financial means, that keep me doing well at Geneseo. I additionally hold a part-time job during the school year to help my folks with the many bills associated with higher education.

If you would like to continue the discussion, I think it would be only fair for you to advertise yourself and your background more transparently.

Advertise myself? I'm not sure what you want to know. Would you like to see my tax returns?

According to a study published in the Washinton Post, 72% of college professors are liberal, compared to 15% who identify as conservatives. There's not much room for diversity of thought here. I can tell you that there are a few conservative professors here at Geneseo but the vast majority, and the administration, are liberals. That's a fact - disliking it won't change it.

That study was probably done nationwide, and is therefore not representative of the sample at Geneseo. And, if you'd like to get into an argument of studies, most done on the subject of Political Socialization come to the conclusion that a child is imbued with his or her political leanings before the end of high school, making your point moot regardless.

Suggesting that college students will be somehow "turned liberal" by a liberal-leaning professorship does a discredit to the ability of Geneseo students to do independent thought.